Comments on: A 10ยข Bullpen for a $20 Job; and It Might Be Enough http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/ Just another Baseball Prospectus Local Sites site Sat, 16 Feb 2019 21:04:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: Carl http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-8025 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:24:10 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-8025 I feel that Warren should be 4 or 5 starter, he has great potential. Hammel the other starter. Hendricks optioned unless he was a great spring and brought as needed.

]]> By: Rian Watt http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-8021 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:03:50 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-8021 It’s possible they’ll do some roster maneuvering of this ilk, but the Player’s Union really frowns on that sort of thing.

]]> By: Justin http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-8015 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:47:24 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-8015 Wouldn’t the more likely scenario at the beginning of the season that the Cubs option Hendricks to AAA and keep both Ramirez (assuming he’s healthy) and Brothers on the roster? Then, after rosters are set, maybe you can sneak one of the players through back down to AAA to bring up Hendricks when you need a for-sure 5th starter or one of the fringe relievers goes on the DL.

]]> By: craig http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-8014 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:35:22 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-8014 Nice article. I think it’s a safe premise that Hendricks and Hammel will make the roster, barring trade. Grimm will also. That premise would give 12 pretty-much well-defined pitchers for the initial roster. As I see it,

1. Ramirez and Brothers are the high-talent prime competitors for spot 13. Ramirez lack of options could factor.
2. Olmos: no options, JAG lefty. Roster in case of injury; may get cut, again go unclaimed, and accept Iowa assignment.
3. Johnson, Acevedo, minors for certain to start.
4. Edwards, Patton, Rosscup, those are the early-season yo-yo guys, in-case-of-injury guys, and candidates in case Ramirez+Brothers don’t step up. Edwards is probably one who has the talent to just go out and win a job, if his control can look acceptable.

A. In a typical spring, probably at least one of the “intended top 12″ guys will be hurt. Injury => opportunity for others.

B. Rian, your assumption is 13 pitchers and 4 bench players. It’s possible they’ll carry 12 pitchers with 5 bench players. The decision about carrying 13 pitchers will depend on:
a) Injury
b) Do we add another player who could play some CF, or just figure to play one of Zobrist/Baez/Bryant/Coghlan on the occasional day when Heyward doesn’t?
c) How good do the 13th/14th/15th pitchers look? If Ramirez looks healthy and terrific, keep. If Brothers responds great to Bosio and is looking like a weapon, keep. If Edwards looks like he’s got the best stuff in the pen and like he can throw strikes, maybe you keep. But if none of the 13th pitchers actually looks any good, and Maddon isn’t going to use them in meaningful situations anyway, they may well keep only 12, at least at first.

]]> By: Rian Watt http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-7951 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:12:43 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-7951 I agree, he was excellent last year, and I like him a lot. I think he’ll have to compete to win a spot, though.

]]> By: Str1fe5 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-7950 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:06:16 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-7950 I really cant see Hendrix not making the starting rotation.

He has a career DRA of 3.54 and FIP of 3.35. Put up a solid 2.5 WARP last year. That’s considerably better than should be expected of any of the other options.

]]> By: Rian Watt http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-7948 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 00:23:47 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-7948 Hey Zonk! I think you’re probably right. But I’m not sure, because I’ve discovered that I don’t understand option rules well enough. So I’m going to leave the piece as is for now, and go learn some stuff. When I’ve learned enough, I’ll come back and edit. Thanks for reading!

]]> By: Zonk http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-7947 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 00:12:43 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-7947 Great article! You may have mis-read AZ Phil’s site, though, as Rosscup definitely has 1 option remaining. Odds are he’s going to Iowa…..

]]> By: Rian Watt http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-7943 Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:44:41 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-7943 It’s very possible, yes. Thanks for reading!

]]> By: Rian Watt http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/01/04/a-10%c2%a2-bullpen-for-a-20-job-and-it-might-be-enough/#comment-7942 Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:39:12 +0000 http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/?p=7304#comment-7942 Hey Joe, thanks! Can’t say I really disagree with any of this; the scenario you lay out is certainly plausible and I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see it happen. Thanks for reading!

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