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	<title>Comments on: Why I Still Think About Rick Renteria</title>
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		<title>By: Joaquín Selva</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joaquín Selva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 23:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey John, thanks for taking the time to read and engage. I agree, looking at minor league managers and taking all coaches into account would be a good next step to paint a more complete picture of the situation. I still think that the numbers among major league managers are crucial, because these jobs are the ones at the top and most likely the ultimate goal for managers. Even if there is more diversity at lower levels, there will still be a problem until there is diversity in the highest level of baseball.

I agree that Joe Maddon was an upgrade to Rick Renteria for the 2015 Cubs, and I&#039;m glad you agree that Renteria deserves another shot for what he did considering what he started with. I think Dusty has also earned the Nationals job, but I see what you&#039;re saying. I think because he&#039;s one of the few who has &quot;broken through&quot;, GMs are more comfortable offering him the reins than perhaps less-proven black and Latino managers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John, thanks for taking the time to read and engage. I agree, looking at minor league managers and taking all coaches into account would be a good next step to paint a more complete picture of the situation. I still think that the numbers among major league managers are crucial, because these jobs are the ones at the top and most likely the ultimate goal for managers. Even if there is more diversity at lower levels, there will still be a problem until there is diversity in the highest level of baseball.</p>
<p>I agree that Joe Maddon was an upgrade to Rick Renteria for the 2015 Cubs, and I&#8217;m glad you agree that Renteria deserves another shot for what he did considering what he started with. I think Dusty has also earned the Nationals job, but I see what you&#8217;re saying. I think because he&#8217;s one of the few who has &#8220;broken through&#8221;, GMs are more comfortable offering him the reins than perhaps less-proven black and Latino managers.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 18:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article, but taking only major league managers doesnt tell the entire picture.  What are the numbers when you include minor league managers and all coaches. I dont disagree theres a problem, as dave Martinez really probably should be a manager by now. Maddon was a clear upgrade from rentaria at this point in their career, but i thought rentaria did a pretty good job with the team he was given.  He should get another shot. Hell duaty baker probably shouldn&#039;t have gotten another job, so wgo knows what gm&#039;s are thinking]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, but taking only major league managers doesnt tell the entire picture.  What are the numbers when you include minor league managers and all coaches. I dont disagree theres a problem, as dave Martinez really probably should be a manager by now. Maddon was a clear upgrade from rentaria at this point in their career, but i thought rentaria did a pretty good job with the team he was given.  He should get another shot. Hell duaty baker probably shouldn&#8217;t have gotten another job, so wgo knows what gm&#8217;s are thinking</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquín Selva</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joaquín Selva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2016 03:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a really good point, let&#039;s hope so! I think he&#039;s definitely shown enough to earn a real chance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really good point, let&#8217;s hope so! I think he&#8217;s definitely shown enough to earn a real chance.</p>
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		<title>By: 3GamesToLove</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3GamesToLove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2016 18:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Renteria might be heir apparent to the White Sox job if they move on from Ventura. Who knows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renteria might be heir apparent to the White Sox job if they move on from Ventura. Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquín Selva</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joaquín Selva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2016 19:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re absolutely right, Zack. Gatekeeping occurs in several steps of your thought, from the Ivy Leagues to MLB organizations. A big part of the initial barrier for managers is, like you said, the tendency of GMs to hire managers who remind them of themselves, and it&#039;s just hard (for obvious reasons) for black and Latino managers to remind white GMs of themselves.

Craig Calcaterra&#039;s point about &quot;baseball men&quot; and Dave Roberts is also interesting. Inscrutable terms like this are often just ways to avoid admitting that a subjective decision was made in hiring. I fear Dave Roberts is just an exception to the rule rather than being indicative of the term&#039;s expansion, but I also hope I&#039;m wrong. 

I think Meg Rowley is also right on about clubability and the fact that measures need to be taken at all steps of an organization before real change starts happening, and that mere &quot;suggestions&quot; have clearly not been enough. Until there&#039;s diversity among several levels of decision-making, we&#039;ll keep seeing these laughably low numbers of non-white managers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, Zack. Gatekeeping occurs in several steps of your thought, from the Ivy Leagues to MLB organizations. A big part of the initial barrier for managers is, like you said, the tendency of GMs to hire managers who remind them of themselves, and it&#8217;s just hard (for obvious reasons) for black and Latino managers to remind white GMs of themselves.</p>
<p>Craig Calcaterra&#8217;s point about &#8220;baseball men&#8221; and Dave Roberts is also interesting. Inscrutable terms like this are often just ways to avoid admitting that a subjective decision was made in hiring. I fear Dave Roberts is just an exception to the rule rather than being indicative of the term&#8217;s expansion, but I also hope I&#8217;m wrong. </p>
<p>I think Meg Rowley is also right on about clubability and the fact that measures need to be taken at all steps of an organization before real change starts happening, and that mere &#8220;suggestions&#8221; have clearly not been enough. Until there&#8217;s diversity among several levels of decision-making, we&#8217;ll keep seeing these laughably low numbers of non-white managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack Moser</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8743</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zack Moser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing I&#039;ve thought about for a couple of years now is the shift front offices have taken towards being stables of white, Ivy League-educated wunderkind, and the effects they&#039;ve had on managerial hires. 

We&#039;ve seen a recent spike in former players being hired as managers (though I suspect that will subside), but the *real* trend is FOs hiring the one guy who they trust will implement their plan without complaint. And so, those GMs and Presidents of Baseball Ops go to the guys who look like them and who reinforce their baseball world views, constricting the hiring process and further reifying white, male gatekeeeping.

Dave Roberts is the one important and interesting exception here. I think there are two good, recent pieces that touch on these thoughts, but there&#039;s a lot of development left to be done.

Meg Rowley  on &quot;clubability&quot; http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=27822

Craig Calcaterra on Roberts and &quot;Baseball Men&quot;
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2015/12/09/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-a-baseball-man/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve thought about for a couple of years now is the shift front offices have taken towards being stables of white, Ivy League-educated wunderkind, and the effects they&#8217;ve had on managerial hires. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen a recent spike in former players being hired as managers (though I suspect that will subside), but the *real* trend is FOs hiring the one guy who they trust will implement their plan without complaint. And so, those GMs and Presidents of Baseball Ops go to the guys who look like them and who reinforce their baseball world views, constricting the hiring process and further reifying white, male gatekeeeping.</p>
<p>Dave Roberts is the one important and interesting exception here. I think there are two good, recent pieces that touch on these thoughts, but there&#8217;s a lot of development left to be done.</p>
<p>Meg Rowley  on &#8220;clubability&#8221; <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=27822" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=27822</a></p>
<p>Craig Calcaterra on Roberts and &#8220;Baseball Men&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2015/12/09/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-a-baseball-man/" rel="nofollow">http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2015/12/09/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-a-baseball-man/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joaquín Selva</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joaquín Selva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha, thanks man, I&#039;m glad it was accessible!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, thanks man, I&#8217;m glad it was accessible!</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquín Selva</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joaquín Selva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jamie, I&#039;m glad you enjoyed it and I also hope it opens up the conversation further. 
That&#039;s a great question, and I think that&#039;s where it gets murky. I will say that personality issues alone cannot explain the almost total lack of minority managers, and I&#039;m almost certain that some white managers have personality issues that are overlooked as long as they&#039;re doing alright in the dugout. It is a complicated issue, though, and you&#039;re right that it does warrant looking into more than just wins and losses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jamie, I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it and I also hope it opens up the conversation further.<br />
That&#8217;s a great question, and I think that&#8217;s where it gets murky. I will say that personality issues alone cannot explain the almost total lack of minority managers, and I&#8217;m almost certain that some white managers have personality issues that are overlooked as long as they&#8217;re doing alright in the dugout. It is a complicated issue, though, and you&#8217;re right that it does warrant looking into more than just wins and losses.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2016 21:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know d*ck about baseball but this article lays out the issue at hand so well I really don&#039;t have to know much about the sport (or the statistics) to follow along. Great debut for a talented writer, can&#039;t wait to read the next one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know d*ck about baseball but this article lays out the issue at hand so well I really don&#8217;t have to know much about the sport (or the statistics) to follow along. Great debut for a talented writer, can&#8217;t wait to read the next one!</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquín Selva</title>
		<link>http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/02/02/why-i-still-think-about-rick-renteria/#comment-8716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joaquín Selva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2016 17:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, I appreciate you saying so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, I appreciate you saying so.</p>
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